If you have been a real streetfight (exchanging punches, fight until someone is on the floor type of brawl) what martial art (or arts) helped you?
What martial arts do you think would help in the fight or fights you have been in?
What martial arts do you think would be least helpful for real fights?
What kind of training is most helpful? Full-contact sparring? Groundifighting? Traditional martial arts? Combat sports like boxing or wrestling?
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unfortunately i was attack once and i have to say that honestly i was caught off guard i did not even do anything that was taught i just punched back with what seemed like a last effort but as soon as my hand made contact the guy was out like a light it was many years ago an i was at a bar with my army buddies. i have to say i did not even hit that guy that hard it was just the many years of hand conditioning that split the guys forehead. traditional karate like goju ryu will condition yourself to the point that your body will work for you, in fact any traditional art that still conditions and does full contact training will help in the long run but boxing and wrestling yield faster results. ive trained hundreds of soldiers in the army combatives and soldiers that have done golden gloves and high school wrestling had an edge but still nothing turns off the lights like a well conditioned hand.
Ok first of all I have to laugh at most of the answers you have received so far. A special mention to Steel Chimera who should be shocked at his/her own stupidity and has no reason to answer such questions.
Kata is not designed for what you are trying to say, I need you need to educate yourself.
Now to answer your question, no art is superior or inferior to any other. It does not matter on what art you have studied, etc, that does not determine the outcome in a streetfight nor in any kind of fight. What matters is how well you have trained.
You can get Mickey Mouse to teach you Mickey Mouse way of the golden fist martial art (It does not exist btw) but you can practice these techniques over and over again and give your all to your training and win in fights. This doesnt mean Mickey Mouse way of the golden fist is the best art, it means you trained well and hard work has payed off.
Why cant you ppl understand this and stop asking idiot questions about what art will beat what art.
I have trained in Japanese Ju Jitsu for about 5 years now. I have been in numerous fights as well. What it comes down to in a fight is how well you have grasped the techniques that you were taught and if you can apply them in a combat situation. Combat is messy and will never turn out the way you were taught, so you have to be able to take what they give you and make it so you can apply your technique no matter what position you and your opponent are in. So pick a martial art that you like and stick with it and absorb all that they teach you and you should be fine. You will get hurt in a fight, I promise you that, but in the end you will hurt them more.
This is a good deep thought out and ready question. on what m/a is least helpful i can tell you there is not one. if you learn it that is how you will fight and fight your fight- not theres this means if you are an in close fighter do not let them get distance (like tkd) untill you say it is over dont give up your edge. find your art to match you have you long or strong arms for boxing or Wing Chun or are you a heavy or stocky build good for judo, sambo or even ninjutsu, or if you are not arobic able Tai Chi.
On my fights my tkd helped because i am a kicker and a runner so i knew young that my leggs were my strength (and i could not find Northern Kung Fu)
On the most helpful art i must say BJJ i have not trained in this but i wished i did. i will do so in a year but work security an often see fights or the camera playback of a fights and noticed one is ofted grabbed and/or often taken to the ground. so Brazilian Jujitsu is the best defence for that.
Experience from being the unluckiest, or the luckiest depends on how you perceive it:
In a street fight/ self defense, going to the ground is stupid, especially if the other guys friends are there to kick you in the head while you’re on top.
Throwing kicks that will probably get caught, and will make you lose balance is never a good idea.
Quick strikes, a good self defense is the key.
Full-contact sparring is good, it gives you the feel of being in a real fight (but it is safe and controlled)
where as a street fight/self defense is not safe, and not controlled.
Traditional Martial Arts like Karate teaches self defense, striking and kicking and makes it like clock work and automatic
Same as boxing
The two that help the most in my opinion and based on REAL LIFE SITUATIONS are Boxing, and Shitokai Karate, Kempo is good as well.
wing chun helped me alot in street fights it changes your view in a fight and you think of your body as a machine and helps you in close combat the martial arts that I think is least helpful is original tai kowndo bexause you get used to kicking and you dont practice that much punching and when your in a real street fight you dont know how to defend yourself when somebody does a barrage against you
i agree with sensei harry and nwohioguy…
some of these answers are hilarious.
Steel Chimera you are truly clueless about martial arts.
as others have said, any style can work in a real situation, it all depends on the person and how they train. there is no least helpful style.
many styles are complete systems, containing both stand up and ground fighting, included in those ares are all karate styles, most kung fu styles, many japanese jujutsu styles and so forth.
1) Taekwondo, Judo, Boxing
2) Any martial art out there
3) For ME indivudual, it would be Capoeira and/or Wushu because I am not inclined to do those type of moves even though I have seen them work for other people in real fights
4) ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF TRAINING ARE HELPFUL. You should train in all of them. I have trained in all four those aspects and found each one to be of benefit.
Sayoc Kali. Its a weapon based, war-proven combat art from the Philippines that is being used by most armies and special forces in the world today and is one of the main base art taken by Krav Maga. This art teaches you how to LITERALLY kill your opponent. The flip-side to this is although you would most likely win any street fight, high chance you’d end up in jail.
Lol what is it with you people and street fighting? Do you all just want a criminal record and medical bills? There are no winners in a street fight in the long run..period.
There is a world of difference between a street fight and a self defense situation. A street fight is a clash of ego’s that could 99% of the time be avoided if just one of the people had some commen sense, and didn’t have sucha fragile ego. Selkf defense is where you have absolutly no choice but to fight, to protect yourself or a loved one, or somebody that cannot defend themselves.
For self defense the main goal is simply to survive to go home to your loved ones…period. If this means giving up your wallet, car, etc. then that is what you do, sinc eyou cannot carry anything on you worth your life. Any martial art out there if you have a good instructor and train right will give you the skills you need if you absolutly have to defend yourself…a style is just a set of tools, how you use them is solely up to you.
I realiz ethat this will probably fall on deaf ears but you have my answer. If you are determined to street fight well…you get what you ask for eventually.
Steel Chimara needs to get out of the Martial Arts section because he has no clue.
Boxing has helped me defend myself in an attack against a guy who knew BJJ. He dived into my mid section going for a take down. I stepped back twice and threw a left and right hook and connected him and knocked him out. Maui Thai has helped me but this art is more dangerous. A Karate guy advanced toward me with a front snap kick. I blocked it with a knee. I threw a straight right and connected him. He covered up and looked down. I went in and kneed him in the face and he fell to the floor badly bruised.
It really doesn’t matter I’ve trained in the martial arts for over 22 years but when I went into combat the person willing to do the most damage by any means necessary was always the victor. Sure having martial skills gives you more tools but you don’t need many tools to hurt or kill someone.
You have to be kidding me with all these opinions…none of them are factual and none of them answer your question. To answer your question is simple:
Only how you apply what you learn will matter in a real street fight…not what system you study, what art it is or how it was trained…it is totally up to you.
The last time I fought on the street, my MMA training came in very hand. One leg kick and the guy was down on the ground. The bad part came when I went down to choke him out. A bystander punched me in the side of the head.
Stand up – great
Ground – bad
Just get up quick. Aside from that, being very aware of your surroundings if a big part of defending yourself.
Taekwondo, full contact sparring, and weekly self defense practice for reaction drills. Remember an actual street fight should use less than 5% of your energy and last less than 10 seconds or the other person has a chance to figure you out.
some arts do work in street fights i would say bjj because every fight usually goes to the ground but if you did bjj you would have to get it to the ground so i would say bjj with wrestling if you want a stand up art go with boxing or thai boxing
The Most would be Muay Thai. The least would be Kung Fu.
MAUY TAI is devastaing..check it out
EDIT:
disregard my original answer… I was half asleep when I wrote it and did not come across the way intended, that’s why it came off as meaningless ramble.